Interview with Sandie Gustus

SandieGustas-17When Sandie first came across the International Academy of Consciousness (an organization associated with the work of renowned Brazilian consciousness researcher, Dr. Vieira’s work) in 2001, she was working with a specialized agency of the United Nations in Geneva. She began volunteering for the IAC the following year. Having already spent several years in pursuit of self-knowledge, studying at the IAC had such an impact on her life that in 2003 she left Geneva and moved to London to train to be an instructor with the IAC, to promote its courses, and to assist in expanding its reach across Europe. In 2014 she joined the Brazil-based Interassistantial Services for the Internationalization of Conscientiology (ISIC).

Hi Sandie, could you please give the astral-institute a short introduction of who you are and what you do. Just for the people that don’t know you?

Hi. Sure. I’m Australian, and British! My professional background is in Marketing and Communications. I currently live in Paris. Prior to moving here, I spent 11 years in the UK where I volunteered and taught with a non-profit organization dedicated to researching the consciousness (soul, spirit, self) called the International Academy of Consciousness (IAC). Their work is based on two sciences proposed by renowned Brazilian consciousness researcher, Waldo Vieira MD, known as conscientiology (the study of the consciousness) and projectiology (the study of the projection of the consciousness outside of the body [OBE] and bioenergies). Dr. Vieira recently passed away, leaving an immense body of knowledge, books and encyclopaedias, a research campus and several organizations as his legacy.

In 2014 I left the IAC and joined another organization known as the Interassistantial Services for the Internationalization of Conscientiology (ISIC), based in Brazil. Its purpose is to expand the reach of the 20+ Brazil-based organizations involved in the research, teaching and dissemination of these sciences across the globe, and to help direct people interested in learning more about these ideas to the organizations most closely aligned with their interests and needs.

How did you first hear about astral projection?

I remember having some strange experiences that I couldn’t make sense of when I was very young, often when I was ill. This isn’t unusual as being sick with a fever, for example, is an altered state of consciousness (ASC). And it’s easier to reach an ASC such as OBE, from another ASC. Knowing what I know now, I realize I was experiencing various sensations associated with leaving the body. One day I heard another kid at school talking about his experiences floating up outside of the body, travelling around his house and passing through walls and although everyone was laughing at him, I knew he was telling the truth and started trying to do it myself.

Have you had an out of body experience and if so, could you tell us about your first one?

As is often the case, children can be quite open to psychic phenomena. However, as we get older, we tend to become conditioned by society to believe that there is no reality beyond our physical world, beyond what we can perceive with our five physical senses. So my childhood experiences stopped and it wasn’t until I started studying at the IAC where we learned how to have OBEs and to experience and control other phenomenon such as clairvoyance and telepathy that I had another episode. One night while sleeping, I suddenly ‘woke up’ outside of the body. Because of what I’d learned, I was 100% sure of my condition, I knew my body was asleep but that I was conscious in the non-physical dimension. Initially I was hovering above a beach but I took the opportunity to put into practice what I’d learned in class, and spent time directing and controlling where I went and what I did. It was an experiment for me. This crystal clear experience enabled me to understand, in a way that I can never again deny to myself, that I am not my physical body. I am something more than that. It was an important moment for me.

When did you decide to dedicated you time to working on your book Less Incomplete?

I started working on Less Incomplete in 2004. I had been involved with the IAC for a few years, first as a student, then as a volunteer. I was so impressed by the depth of the research, the level of understanding and also the principles of the IAC and other, associated organizations. But the way in which the information itself was presented, both through Dr. Vieira’s books and through our courses, was very academic in style. Many complex (but necessary) neologisms were used to describe new concepts that we don’t deal with in our ordinary physical life. So I thought that the ideas could be made more accessible. An important objective of our work is to help anyone who’s interested, to learn, have and control their own experiences with paranormal phenomena, and to give them a perspective of their existence that includes non-physical realities. Making the information more accessible would help more people to do this. So I wrote my book to summarize the key concepts of conscientiology and projectiology in a ‘popular’ easy-to-read style for a non-academic audience.

The book goes on to show how this knowledge can benefit the readers in immensely powerful ways, explaining for example, how to:

* Master energy and use it as a tool for self-healing and healing others; to experience conscious and controlled OBEs; to increase their psychic abilities and protect themselves energetically.
* Identify their purpose in life and move towards it with conviction
* Avoid repeating mistakes of past lives

Can you define Conscientiology for us?

Conscientiology is the science that studies the consciousness (soul, spirit, self), investigating all of its properties, attributes, capacities, phenomena, lives and vehicles of manifestation (of which the ‘astral’ body is one).

To give a little more detail, Conscientiology is hierarchically structured into a set of around 1,400 subdisciplines. Just to give a few examples:

* Paraphysiology: (from ‘para’ meaning everything that’s not physical) looks at the physiology, the characteristics, of the astral body and mental body which are bodies of manifestation of the consciousness. E.g. the astral body can permeate physical things, it can change its shape and appearance in many different ways, it is weightless, invisible, inaudible and indestructible.

* Communicology: studies how we communicate in other dimensions and how we communicate across the dimensions. E.g. a non-physical person can communicate with us through telepathy, psychophony (using a medium), or synchronicity.

* Cosmoethics: describes a code of ethics for behaviour outside the body. We need Cosmoethics because human ethics or morals are relative, meaning, they are subjective and relevant only to a specific group of people or to a specific culture, religion or political group. So we need some guidelines for what is appropriate behaviour outside the body.

* Paragenetics: is a kind of genetic coding that is not passed from one person to another but is transmitted from our subtle body and mental body to our new physical body when we are reborn. This means that we can ‘inherit’ many things not from our parents, but from ourselves.

* Intermissiology: studies the period in between two physical lives in which we exist in a non-physical dimension.

There are around 850 volunteers researching all of the subdisciplines at a research campus at the Iguassu Falls in Brazil known as the Centre for Higher Studies of the Consciousness (CHSC), and at the many organizations associated with Vieira’s work.

And what is the future of Conscientiology?

Conscientiology is constantly evolving in terms of research/understanding, education and the dissemination of the ideas. For example, today we have The Invisible College of Conscientiology that provides online webinars on a wide variety of topics, free of charge to anyone, anywhere in the world, who wants to participate.

What’s also very exciting is that many new organizations devoted to researching specialities of Conscientiology have been launched and are in the planning phases. To give some examples:

OIC (International Organization of Conscientiotherapy) applies the principles of Conscientiology to health. It has a team of fully qualified and practising psychiatrists, psychologists and medical doctors who provide counselling and support to people in need, analysing their issues from a multidimensional, multi-existential perspective.

ECTOLAB (International Association of Laboratorial Research into Ectoplasm and Parasurgery) performs scientific research on ectoplasm and parasurgery and offers educational activities.

EXTRACONS (International Association of Extraterrestiology) is dedicated to researching extra-terrestrials, including their physical and non-physical lives.

More information about these and other Conscientiocentric Organizations can be found at:

Do you continue to have OBEs?

Yes I do but in studying these ideas and working to develop my energetic capacities (the key to improving our psychism), I can experience the non-physical world around me at any moment, not just when I’m out of the body. For example, I know when I have non-physical people around me, I can determine what their intentions are, I can communicate with them, help them or protect myself from them if needs be; I know when people are thinking of me; I can sometimes see the non-physical dimensions; I can use my energy to heal myself and others; I am aware of the connections of have with friends, family and even strangers, that stem from past lives; I understand that the karmic consequences of my actions can extend beyond this physical life; and I understand my purpose in this life. This is the real beauty of these ideas—it puts our current life into a much broader perspective that includes other dimensions and other lives (both past and future). Such a perspective can often cause us to review and change our priorities.

And what technique do you consider to be the most practical?

While there is no one guaranteed technique that will work for everyone there are many excellent techniques for prompting an OBE. Generally speaking, the techniques that will work best for you will draw on your strong traits. For example, relaxation techniques work well for me as I’ve studied meditation and know how to put myself into a deep state of relaxation. Other techniques require a good ability to visualize or to control your breathing. I describe several techniques in my book and many more can be found in Vieira’s book entitled Projectiology: A Panorama of Experiences of the Consciousness outside the Human Body.

Do you have any advice for those interested in learning more?

Yes. Immerse yourself in these ideas as much as you can using all the tools, resources and techniques available to you. Read from a variety of different sources. Watch films such as the Sixth Sense, the Others, Field of Dreams, Bagger Vance etc. all of which portray non-physical realities with a high degree of accuracy. Start asking yourself what is going on in the non-physical dimension around you at any given moment. If you can, try to go to classes to learn how to have an OBE but be discerning about where you study. And most importantly, learn about energy as controlling your energy is the key to developing your psychic capacities. Reading Less Incomplete is a good place to start because it combines a lot of fascinating theory with practical exercises for controlling your energy, developing your psychism, recalling past lives and having OBEs.


Less Incomplete: A Guide to Experiencing the Human Condition beyond the Physical Body

by Sandie Gustus

Highly recommended reading by the Astral Institute. This, the first book to summarize the work of Brazilian consciousness researcher, Waldo Vieira MD, for a general nonacademic audience, has the backing of some of the world’s most eminent academic and medical researchers of life after death. Based on two new sciences proposed by Vieira, this book provides a comprehensive understanding of the human condition beyond the physical body, offering readers a profound opportunity to increase their self-awareness, self-confidence, balance and maturity, and fulfil their potential.!

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